Heroics - rank them!
I'm curious as to how everyone would rank heroic dungeons, from easiest to hardest. Obviously some are easier with a pally tank or a warlock in group, but overall, how would you rank each one?
Here's my list:
(1-easiest)
1. Slave Pens
2. Underbog
3. Sethekk Halls
4. Mechanar
5. Ramparts
6. Blood Furnace
7. Botanica
8. Steamvaults
9. Black Morass
10. Mana Tombs
11. Shattered Halls
12. Arcatraz
13. Shadow Labs
(13-hardest)
I have yet to do heroic OHB (Durnholde) or Crypts, so I left those off of my list.
Bored at work, like most ppl on this forum.
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chaud
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Anderson, SC Heroic mech has got to be easiest. Heroic SV is easier than Bot for sure. Seth halls should be under ramparts, ect.
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Ozzie4
join:2006-10-02
Palatine, IL I've not done heroic Sethekk, but heroic SP and UB are a joke. Ya, Mech is easy, but those two are just complete walks.
Never done it, but sometime I'd like to do Heroic SL too...I've heard horror stories.
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bradleym
join:2002-08-05
Dunfermline, IL reply to JakeCross
They all seem pretty easy to me except Shattered Halls, Shadow Lab, Black Morass, and Old Hillsbrad.
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zombone
I actually didn't think heroic slabs was that hard. My group braced for a tough fight but it never came, we breezed through it.
Anyhow, easiest-to-hardest:
slave pens
mechanar
underbog
ramparts
sethekk halls
old hillsbrad
blood furnace
shadow labs
steamvault
botanica
crypts
arcatraz
mana tombs
shattered halls
black morass
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Ninjacowbear
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Hillsboro, OH reply to JakeCross
I think durnehold is by far the one of the best and its pretty hard. and arc is super lame = /
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hsindogg
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Bring a geared Prot Pallie, and they're all pretty trivial.
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P Ness
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clubs: [Seti@Home] [Folding@Home] gotta agree bring a pally and most of them are very very easy
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MicaTurbo
join:2001-08-27
Ottawa, ON reply to JakeCross
BM isn't too bad.
I kited aeonus from 8%-1% with my hunter before he time stop owned me :/
Our holy pally healer managed to knock off that last 1%
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kywirelessgu
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clubs: [Folding@Home] As a prot pally I'd have to put shattered halls at #1
Its actually easier on heroic since the sharpshooters don't scatter shot. Never missed the extra badge from the timed event.
My least favorite though
Mana Tombs
Crypts
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hsindogg
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said by kywirelessgu See Profile :
As a prot pally I'd have to put shattered halls at #1
Its actually easier on heroic since the sharpshooters don't scatter shot. Never missed the extra badge from the timed event.
Seriously...If I were a geared prot paladin, I would charge 50g per person to run them thru Heroic Shatt, since a lot of people fail at the timed event for the Champion of the Naaru quest.
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kywirelessgu
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The two headed ogre guy is kind of a pain in the butt and I have wiped on him a few times, but because we don't need CC through the entire run you can actually wipe 2 or 3 times and still make the timed event.
My first time in there the lock with us said "you know you can walk right by this ogre boss and go to the end" So we mosey on past and clear out the rogues and engage Bladefist. Guess who the first add is? The two headed ogre boss. I consecrated and really could've tanked em both just fine except he switched aggro and went after a healer. Still had plenty of time after that wipe to kill Omrogg and Bladefist and get the extra badge.
And Heroic SH daily just adds to the ooey gooey fun times. 7 badges in about an hour? Yes please.
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Omega
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Heroic Black Morass is one of the easiest heroics. I would be nice if it had less down time though.
I would say the hardest heroic would have to be shadow labs, followed by crypts.
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Dandy
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Brooklyn, NY
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OHB is the hardest
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mlody
join:2000-07-26
Des Plaines, IL reply to JakeCross
Shattered Halls heroic is the hardest with the biggest pulls - harder then most things in Kara since you have pulls as big as in Kara but only 5 people instead of 10.
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kywirelessgu
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said by mlody See Profile :
Shattered Halls heroic is the hardest with the biggest pulls - harder then most things in Kara since you have pulls as big as in Kara but only 5 people instead of 10.
But 90% are melee. And of the casters only the dark casters can cause any issues. Take a pally tank and don't crowd control anything. Just AOE it all and it'll take under an hour for 5 badges.
It may not be the easiest but its definatly the fastest source of badges outside kara/za.
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Ozzie4
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Palatine, IL
While a skilled healer, appropriate DPS, good CC are all important to a sucessful Heroic, I've come to the opinion that Heroic success is about 90% dependant on a good, skilled, tank. I've run Heroic Black Morass and chain wiped on it for 4 hours. Then the next day, run it with the exact same group but with our guild's main raid tank instead of the similarily geared guild tank and went through it so fast we continually asked if we were really in a heroic. I guess I think it's dependant on the tank since I usually play my healer, but even with some of the healers in the guild who can heal at my level, when I'm on as DPS, the wins seems to be driven by that tank.
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Forlin
join:2007-11-21
Anchorage, AK
reply to JakeCross
SP, Underbog, Ramparts, Blood Furnace, Botanica and Mechanar are all cake walks. I wouldn't rate any of these as more difficult than another, they're all very easy when you've learned the fights and you're properly geared to do heroics.
The thing is one of these may appear more difficult if you've played it less or not at all, but when you know them the only reason you should wipe is if you're careless or stupid enough to do heroics in greens.
I'll never understand why they lowered the reputation requirements, it was a great way of stopping idiots from destroying the PUG system by trying to run before they are ready.
Mana Tombs and SV are slightly more difficult. Actually only one boss in each of these is tricky, the others are no more difficult than the first group. Neither should present much of a challenge to a group that's cleared Kara.
Shattered Halls, Black Morass, Arcatraz, Sethek and Shadowlabs are challenging for anyone that hasn't started SSC and Tempest Keep. They all have different reasons for being difficult, but if you've taken Lurker, Gruul and Void Reaver you should be able to do these without getting frustrated.
The most difficult Heroic I've attempted (and never got close to completing) is Old Hillsbrad.
What happens here is if you don't down mobs within VERY short time frames, they will call 4 un-CC'able adds.
At the start you think, no problem I can handle this, but by the time you get to a 4-pull even the best SSC-geared healers will be shortly OOM.
Sure if you think you can handle an lvl 72 Elite 8-pull, half of which can't be CC'd then go for it. Just try to make sure you're killing the original pull first, because otherwise you're back to square one.
And that's the thing. Because you CC'd 3, you naturally try to kill the adds, run out of mana, die and you're going to have to start again without making any progress.
When you work out you've wiped 3 times without planting a single bomb, well you decide whether it's worth going on - and what's going to happen after you free the orc.
I imagine players that are in MT Hyjal or BT find this easy enough to deal with, but I'm not there yet so I'm not doing Old Hillsbrad for a long, long time.
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